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Thompson Reuters InCites Bibliometrics Meeting (part 2)

Posted by gazjjohnson on 25 March, 2009

[Continued from Part 1]

Jon continued mentioning that an API is available to extract the data from InCites– although it does need to be enabled by Jon or Emma as a request. Another ability of the software is the creation of create researcher ID (RID) profiles (unique). Using the WoS article matching tools it is possible to find records and create links to them. From this you can create local database of publishing output.

A comment from the UCL representative was that academics haven’t been that keen to sign up for these IDs and noted that there are other unique identifiers such as HEFCE. Jon countered that with these IDs it is much easier to ID researchers and works. A short debate followed discussing the practicality of academics keeping these unique IDs between institutions. It was felt that for simplicities sake most institutions would issue new unique IDs to new staff, which rather made the usefulness of this aspect of the service somewhat diminished.

For repositories that use the UT tag on various records, it is possible for InCites to make use of local data (if your research IDs and data are clean/clear enough).

Can evaluate citations counts from institutional repository contents possible to purchase other institutions data, but can’t expose the information. There was a discussion noting that what the REF wants is driving this as a central process, but unclear what HEFCE wants – hence everyone is adopting a wait and see until the June results of the REF pilot are presented. It was noted that whilst the word bibliometrics is much muttered, but in terms how, what and why remains very unclear within most institutions.

The question of citations from patents was raised (e.g. Derwents Citations Index) – would these be of value? The answer wasn’t currently clear. The question of staffing challenges was raised, which whilst the Thompson tools would help wouldn’t alleviate all the challenges.

UCL spoke about their experience as a pilot for the REF – the experience has been a valuable one and a bit of a shock too. Went beyond where just REF wants them to go, and where the data would be of see and found that the systems they had weren’t good enough and neither was the data. More pressingly there was a need for a cultural overhaul in how researchers record their research output and usage. As a result they have a separate a project to address this.
The HEFCE rep present commented that academics still keep sourcing their own research data from different sources for different purposes, and that this was not necessarily a good thing.

[Continued in part 3]

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